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Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.12.15 23:21:00 - [1] Hey guys I am an imbecile who doesn't know math. I think having 23M sp is the same regardless of what those points are actually in. I was just given months of training time back and will be ahead of where I would have been until sometime in the 2020's. But I see a marginally longer skill time and it makes me cry.
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.12.16 00:16:00 - [2] Originally by: Jason1138 "I care that you're ****ting up the forums with irrelevant crap." and you're bumping it to the top every time you stop to tell me how stupid it is. see how that works? people who have no problem with training being slower because they never trained learning to begin with obviously do not care about this either. i got that so they can stop telling me about it u mad bro? Are you just addicted to seeing a high number per hour, or short times, and not actually having skills? Or are you just really, really stupid?
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.12.16 10:35:00 - [3] Originally by: Jii Tral Edited by: Jii Tral on 16/12/2010 07:28:12 The five million or so SP Refund people would have gotten if they maxed all the learning skills is the same amount of skill points that would have gone into other skills if they didn't have to train learning skills in the first place. Now listen closely children. Listen real good. The people who trained it all to lvl 5 had to do it at a SLOWER SP/hr rate than we have now. Meaning they put far more time they would have into that 5 million skill points than they would now with the new base attribute points. It's not really a gift at all and punishes people who had trained everything to five in learning. No, it doesn't. You might say "it rewards people who DIDN'T train everything to five", but it does not PUNISH anyone. The people who trained every learning skill to 5 are substantially better off today than they were yesterday. By five million SP. A year from now, they'll be better off than they would have been a year from now. A year after that, still better off than they would have been had the change never happened. And so on. And so forth. Until about 2020. Assuming EVE is still a thing and people still play and the entire system hasn't been redesigned again by then, they will finally be marginally behind where they would have been before skills were removed. In 20. ****ing. 20. So, tell me how they got nerfed, exactly? The only way they got nerfed is that they made a stupid choice in the past, and CCP didn't give then any extra-bonus over anyone else. I only got 600k SP today, not 5 million. And don't try to say learnings to 5 werent always stupid. By the time they pay off your character is so old that you don't have anything you care about training anyway. Carrier V or something, maybe? By that point its a chore to find something worth training next..
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.12.16 11:24:00 - [4] Originally by: tla s'hpyt So I spent a few months training SP and now I'm being told that SP was apperantly free..... And people try to say eve players are smarter than average? I know right I spent 5000$ on a car and then someone gave me 5000$ back and upgraded my car to a sports car. But I know I paid for the sports car. Even though I have all my money still.
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.12.16 13:02:00 - [5] Originally by: AterraX Originally by: Zverofaust Edited by: Zverofaust on 15/12/2010 19:37:11 From what I remember it will take several years of constant training before the amount of SP you've "lost" due to this change catches up with the amount of SP reimbursement you just received. In short, you won't actually experience this "loss in training time" until 2017 (or whatever it is). Deal with it. What a fallacy. Us with maxed learning skills felt the effect right after the patch...slower training times....from teh bat. Dosn't matter if the total sum redistributed isn't exhausted...that is just a red herring. EvE got dumber and the lowest common donominator won... A red herring how? Heres a tip: Put 2400 SP into your skill every day, from the reallocated points. That's +100/hour. You lost 72/hour because of the patch. You'll gain 32 SP -more- an hour than you did before the update. For the next six years.
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.12.16 23:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Whitehound Originally by: Tippia Good to know that you still see things my way, even though you don't like it. I would need to be blind to see things your way. When I just see you on the forum quoting each of my sentences, trying to fight them one by one, do I know that I have won over you entirely. You continue to be the biggest troll on EVE's forum. Again: Spend 2400 of your reallocated SP per day. You are now training faster than before, for the next six years. If you instead gorge yourself on instant-gratification SP, and then baww about it, there is no hope for you. It's better to get all those months worth of SP at once anyway, from every conceivable standpoint.. Except feeling like you're smart for training learnings to V. No one who trained advanced learnings to V was smart to do so. The only reason people feel butthurt is a logical fallacy. You think those skills were worth more than they were, because you put a lot of time into obtaining them. So, now you're still better off, but you've lost something you feel has value. Hell, training them in the first place is the same fallacy. "It's another month of training to get these, so I'll train SO FAST when they're done!" (That entire extra month yields +1 attribute oh wow.)
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2010.12.17 11:13:00 - [7] Edited by: Space Pinata on 17/12/2010 11:14:54 Quote: It's not the end of the world, but removing the learning skills amounts to an SP Welfare program, giving training time boosts to people who didn't earn it and don't deserve it. People like you are so terrified someone might have a slightly easier time than you are. Buncha leeches on society, people like you actually get -mad- when the world becomes a better place for someone else. "This change is better, but only -I- deserve to have it better!"

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